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1:25 pm
May 10, 2010
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Jill
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Post edited 6:36 am – May 12, 2010 by Jill
Some argue that the adult film industry is empowering for women, because it is one of the few industries where women make more money and have more power than men. Do you agree with this notion or do you feel that pornography is degrading to women? Can it be both?
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10:09 am
May 17, 2010
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Jonathan
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I believe it can be, and is, both. As with any industry or just about any human activity, there are both positive, empowering, beneficial uses and negative, degrading, destructive uses. That goes for both creators and consumers: a film or photo or piece of writing produced willingly by people treated and compensated fairly, and used by a married couple to mutually enhance their sex life and draw themselves closer together, could be beneficial for all involved. There is a thin line between erotica and pornography, and the line shifts depending upon who is doing the defining.
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2:06 pm
May 17, 2010
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m_deluhery
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When you objectify people, turn them into sex toys, it has to be wrong. If it was fullfilling, empowering then the actresses would use their real names, since they hide behind a
"stage" name, i believe most of the true porn to be harmfull to women, and the men who watch it.
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3:13 pm
May 17, 2010
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Jonathan
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Lots of actors, entertainers, writers and those in other professions use stage names, for all sorts of reasons. Bob Dylan? Lauren Bacall? Sholom Aleichem? That porn perfomers, male and female – and producers and directors and crew members – all change their names is not evidence of any degradation per se.
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8:18 am
May 18, 2010
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Len
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Jill,
For those who believe that the porn industry is relatively harmless (women make money or create an empowerment, etc) let me suggest that you read the literature behind this "industry" from those who live within it. This is not about freedom of expression, liberation, or women's rights. Many of the women (not all, but most) fall into this business because they are unwitting victims. They see big money with little effort, glamour and ego-building. In reality, this is a business run by crime. The money that is spent by the buying public is used to foster organized crime, prostitution, drug trafficking and slavery. Believe it… many of the women who think that this is a glamorous business are in reality trapped and cannot leave. Those who do are often dumped on the street (or worse). And to even suggest that "adult films" create empowerment for women is pure fallacy. All one has to do is to view any of the mainstream videos to see how women are treated by their male "actors". Just tune into any 24-hour TV adult film series and you can verify this for yourself. It is not about sensuality at all, it is all about men humiliating women for profit.
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2:23 pm
May 19, 2010
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Sara
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Maybe because I'm a prude from New England, I feel pornography and sex work are degrading to all parties involved. Or maybe it's because I grew up thinking the most valuable thing about me was my appearance and sexuality. I honestly don't believe women who claim to feel empowered by this type of work – I think they are deluding themselves for the sake of survival, whether emotional or material. The sex industry is symptomatic of the many ways people are considered to be vehicles through which others can satisfy their own selfish desires. Less I-It, more I-Thou, please.
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10:34 am
May 22, 2010
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Post edited 10:35 am – May 22, 2010 by Doug_S
I'm not well acquainted with women in either line of work, but I'm willing to believe that some of them genuinely enjoy what they do. Tastes vary. Also, acting provocatively in a movie or music video doesn't carry the same physical health hazards as sex work — and how provocative it has to be to be considered pornography is an open question.
Meanwhile, I have serious qualms about dismissing as self-delusional or dishonest the opinion of any woman who claims to like it. I thought getting rid of prejudices against the views of women one disagreed with was a core principle of feminism. Did I miss a notice somewhere?
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12:12 pm
May 24, 2010
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John Ellis
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I once believed firmly as Len does that the porn industry was about men exploiting women. After being a caregiver to foster teens for a number of years in an institutional setting I came to see another side of this dark world. I applied cynicism to the issue with the help of a teaching and well written Psychologist who specialised in adolescent females.
Who is being exploited? Women are just as likely to become the leaders an promoters in the industry as are men. Prov. 7 makes this assertion.
This is not to say by any means that women in our society are not brutalised and exploited. Misogyny will always be a problem in every civilisation. Children and men are abused and brutalised as well. The darker side of porn (if one can say that) is focused on children and homosexuality.
The exploitation of the observers, both men and women, may outweigh the exploitation of the participants. People who are given over to compulsion and addiction whose lives and families lay in utter ruin because of money extracted. In the case of the paedophile the cost to society to put such people in prison.
One child I cared for for a few years went into porn because, she said; "I'm good at it, and the money is great!" She made the assertion that this is the way she lived anyway so why not put it on video and make a few bucks. Exploitation crosses the gender gap. It was not as simple as I once thought.
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3:23 am
June 1, 2010
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Nicole V
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I am glad to hear you are not such a close minded person. I never did a porn or nude photos but there was a time in my life I stripped to earn a living. At first the money was a key motivating factor but it began to chip away at my spirit. I eventually got out of that dead end job but the money did help me and some others thru very difficult times. I walked away realizing that everyone has temptations and weaknesses. After all I am human. I think it is a false happiness but that is just an ex-strippers opinion. I will not judge women who do those sort of jobs. I do oppose the people that make it seem so glamorous all the time. Looks fade, money comes and goes and so do people. I think we should make the most of our time here!
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